megyn: you're telling me john boehner's going to agree to that? >> he's agreed -- he's saying, he's making con conciliatory nos that maybe we don't mind if we get more money coming in from the rich. he wants to get rid of loopholes, but the effect is more money coming into the treasury. harry reid says tax the rich. trumka says don't cut entitlements, no, no, no, and don't worry about the deficit. you add that up, and that is a deal on the fiscal cliff, but the stock market doesn't like it, and the economy won't do well in it. that's the bottom line. megyn: all right. we'll see what they do with the fiscal cliff. they tried to fix it twice, twice they failed, now we're getting close to the deadline, and they're like, oh, we'll punt again. okay, fine. washington's going to do what it's going to do. what about obamacare? that, all sort of the bad stuff, if you will, of obamacare, the taxes, the penalties people are going to have to pay, they started in obama 2.0, and that starts in 2014. how big of an impact is that going to have? is. >> big. the re